Many of my friends complain about odor in their front load machines. They also lament about spending money for "machine cleaners". I never have had a problem with machine odor. It's because I always use bleach when washing my white clothes. I get beautifully white clothes and never any machine odor. And I don't hae to waste a wash cycle just to clean my machine! My friend Cathy tried it and after 3 months still no machine odor.